Toon: Indefinitive

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I was going to call this cartoon "change I don't want to believe" but Masheka wisely counseled me otherwise. Seriously though, I really wish I hadn't had to draw this (in the sense that I wish Obama hadn't made the awful decisions that led me to draw this.)

Re: Obama's change of heart

On the bright side, at least all those indefinite detainees won't have to worry about the release of embarrassing photos! But seriously: WTF?!

From the pro-torture mail bag...

Kevin H. writes in response to my CIA torture cartoon:

1) We don't know what intel that was obtained at as a result of the waterboarding - curiously, that is the ONE piece of information the administration decided not to release. It is possible we learned quite a bit from this waterboarding that ultimately saved thousands of lives, but until they release all of the info about this, you and I will never know.

2) The two that were waterboarded 266 times collaborated with those who killed over 2000 people during 9/11. If it were me, I would waterboard each bastard once for each death they helped cause before I even started asking any questions. That would not begin to redress the loss they helped cause, but it would be a nice start. These aren't people, they are vicious animals, who would gladly do much worse than waterboarding to our captured servicemen if given a chance, before of course, they brutally be-head them (and by the way, their terrorist friends have indeed done much worse). And guess what? They will continue to do much worse, no matter how humanely we treat the terrorists we capture in the future. The only difference now is that they will have an easier time getting recruits to do their bidding, since the recruits know they won't be tortured if they are captured, and people like you and Obama will be more concerned about their rights than the rights of their victims. Frankly, I don't care what the CIA does with them, as long as they don't release them.

3) Its awfully easy to criticize when you are not the one responsible for keep our nation safe, and where you don't have all the facts. And you somehow conveniently forget the atrocities these monsters caused that lead to their waterboarding. Liberals like to point out how Bush never captured Bin Laden, well, did it occur to you that maybe they waterboarded these bastards that many times in an attempt to get information that would lead to his capture?

4) It would be nice if we all lived in a perfect world, where everyone respected human life and everyone threw away their guns and all nations, organizations, and groups strove to preserve basic human rights, such as not torturing anyone. I honestly would love to live in such a world. NEWSFLASH: We don't live in a perfect world, and we never will. Terrorists don't feel any moral obligation to observe any kind of code of decency or proper conduct, and I don't mind our Government returning the favor when we capture them, especially if we can get intel that saves U.S. lives in the long run.

Toon: The C.I.A.: Can-Do Torturers!

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266th time's the charm!